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	<link>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/</link>
	<description>curious by nature, journalist by trade</description>
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		<title>by: Meranda</title>
		<link>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13543</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ah sorry all (and thanks &lt;a href="http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13542" rel="nofollow"&gt;Matt&lt;/a&gt; for bringing it back to my attention). My days at work spiraled out of control on other stories on my beat, so I didn't come back and update as I should have.

I took the advice and asked my EE about what if any policy we have and presented her with the evidence and print outs. She said to keep an eye out and see if it's an isolated incident made because the person didn't know better (which happens I suppose -- she gave an example of a co-worker in Kansas who honestly didn't know better until she was told). She said she might e-mail the guy's editor to note that one of her reporters noticed a story with an identical lead.

I also asked one of our other editors who, a few days later, it dawned on me used to work as ME of the paper in question. Her immediate response? "It doesn't surprise me." And that, "He did it because he didn't think he'd get caught." Sigh.

My direct editor meanwhile has taken it in stride and humor, as he does most things, and helped me to do so. He joked that my productivity recently has been low: He hasn't seen any of my stories in the HJ. lol. Well, it was a little funny.

Another reporter, when I spoke up, said he had noted a similar thing in a different paper in our region for one of his stories. He didn't really do anything about it but chalked it up to bad journalism, which is kind of where I'm leaving this.

So all this leads to a whole lot of nothing. No guns blazing. No apologies demanded — or received. &lt;a href="http://thehj.com/main.asp?Search=1&#038;ArticleID=22603&#038;SectionID=9&#038;SubSectionID=&#038;S=1" rel="nofollow"&gt;That story&lt;/a&gt; remains posted as it originally appeared under another reporter's byline. And I have moved on, as I indicated before, to doing my best at my job and letting my work speak for itself — I guess even if it's through someone else's mouthpiece.

As a final note, I do think I would feel a lot differently and more outraged — though my outrage has diffused in the past week — if this had been an enterprise package or something I spent more than about half an hour reporting and writing. As it stands, kind of like when I see the TV or radio people reading near word-for-word a story I reported, I just chalk it up to a small market and thank God I work at a more professional paper than that.

I'll just keep in mind what my editor often tells us when TV has the same story we're also writing or reporting, "You can do better than that."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah sorry all (and thanks <a href="http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13542" rel="nofollow">Matt</a> for bringing it back to my attention). My days at work spiraled out of control on other stories on my beat, so I didn&#8217;t come back and update as I should have.</p>
<p>I took the advice and asked my EE about what if any policy we have and presented her with the evidence and print outs. She said to keep an eye out and see if it&#8217;s an isolated incident made because the person didn&#8217;t know better (which happens I suppose &#8212; she gave an example of a co-worker in Kansas who honestly didn&#8217;t know better until she was told). She said she might e-mail the guy&#8217;s editor to note that one of her reporters noticed a story with an identical lead.</p>
<p>I also asked one of our other editors who, a few days later, it dawned on me used to work as ME of the paper in question. Her immediate response? &#8220;It doesn&#8217;t surprise me.&#8221; And that, &#8220;He did it because he didn&#8217;t think he&#8217;d get caught.&#8221; Sigh.</p>
<p>My direct editor meanwhile has taken it in stride and humor, as he does most things, and helped me to do so. He joked that my productivity recently has been low: He hasn&#8217;t seen any of my stories in the HJ. lol. Well, it was a little funny.</p>
<p>Another reporter, when I spoke up, said he had noted a similar thing in a different paper in our region for one of his stories. He didn&#8217;t really do anything about it but chalked it up to bad journalism, which is kind of where I&#8217;m leaving this.</p>
<p>So all this leads to a whole lot of nothing. No guns blazing. No apologies demanded — or received. <a href="http://thehj.com/main.asp?Search=1&#038;ArticleID=22603&#038;SectionID=9&#038;SubSectionID=&#038;S=1" rel="nofollow">That story</a> remains posted as it originally appeared under another reporter&#8217;s byline. And I have moved on, as I indicated before, to doing my best at my job and letting my work speak for itself — I guess even if it&#8217;s through someone else&#8217;s mouthpiece.</p>
<p>As a final note, I do think I would feel a lot differently and more outraged — though my outrage has diffused in the past week — if this had been an enterprise package or something I spent more than about half an hour reporting and writing. As it stands, kind of like when I see the TV or radio people reading near word-for-word a story I reported, I just chalk it up to a small market and thank God I work at a more professional paper than that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just keep in mind what my editor often tells us when TV has the same story we&#8217;re also writing or reporting, &#8220;You can do better than that.&#8221;
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		<title>by: matt king</title>
		<link>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13542</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>whatever happened with this?</description>
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		<title>by: Mindy McAdams</title>
		<link>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13337</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13337</guid>
					<description>My colleague Cory Armstrong is correct -- the right action for a young reporter to take in this case is to tell her editor, do whatever the editor advises or prescribes, and chalk it up to bad journalism practices at another newspaper.

It's true that you could e-mail everyone personally, but that's probably not the best option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My colleague Cory Armstrong is correct &#8212; the right action for a young reporter to take in this case is to tell her editor, do whatever the editor advises or prescribes, and chalk it up to bad journalism practices at another newspaper.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that you could e-mail everyone personally, but that&#8217;s probably not the best option.
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		<title>by: Dana</title>
		<link>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13245</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>*sigh* Well I'd say you did the right thing going to the editor. I might suggest a cross between what Jaclyn said and what you did. Write up something outlining all the facts as you know them. Track down the contact info for the reporter and his boss and then give everything to your editor. That way your boss is part of the initial contacting process, but doesn't have to do the initial legwork.
I actually had a (kind of) similar situation. We were running a story from a sister publication and I ran into a question while editing it. So I found the press release for the event online ... and everything but a couple sentences was verbatim from the press release. The paragraphs were arranged in a slightly different order, but still said the same thing. 
Now a PR firm isn't going to care if you copy their release -- they usually are tickled pink to have people regurgitate their canned material. But the kicker was the guy had the audacity to give himself a byline. And his publication had already run it, byline and all. ack!
Unfortunately my boss never really did anything about it because of office politics. grr. Not really sure what else I, or you, can do in a situation like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh* Well I&#8217;d say you did the right thing going to the editor. I might suggest a cross between what Jaclyn said and what you did. Write up something outlining all the facts as you know them. Track down the contact info for the reporter and his boss and then give everything to your editor. That way your boss is part of the initial contacting process, but doesn&#8217;t have to do the initial legwork.<br />
I actually had a (kind of) similar situation. We were running a story from a sister publication and I ran into a question while editing it. So I found the press release for the event online &#8230; and everything but a couple sentences was verbatim from the press release. The paragraphs were arranged in a slightly different order, but still said the same thing.<br />
Now a PR firm isn&#8217;t going to care if you copy their release &#8212; they usually are tickled pink to have people regurgitate their canned material. But the kicker was the guy had the audacity to give himself a byline. And his publication had already run it, byline and all. ack!<br />
Unfortunately my boss never really did anything about it because of office politics. grr. Not really sure what else I, or you, can do in a situation like that.
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		<title>by: Jaclyn</title>
		<link>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13244</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13244</guid>
					<description>Wow, I would have e-mailed that reporter right after my blood stopped boiling, and I would have cc'ed my editor and his/her editor, if you could find out who it is. It would have gone something like this: "Dear Blahblabh — This is Meranda Watling, who is reporting on the floods in Indiana. It has come to my attention that it appears as though a recent story you've written has a lead identical to one I've written. I do not appreciate my work being used verbatim without crediting me. If you'd like to discuss this further, you can reach me at ..." And such. That's just crap, Meranda. Keep us Meranda Writes readers up to date with what happens, if anything. Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I would have e-mailed that reporter right after my blood stopped boiling, and I would have cc&#8217;ed my editor and his/her editor, if you could find out who it is. It would have gone something like this: &#8220;Dear Blahblabh — This is Meranda Watling, who is reporting on the floods in Indiana. It has come to my attention that it appears as though a recent story you&#8217;ve written has a lead identical to one I&#8217;ve written. I do not appreciate my work being used verbatim without crediting me. If you&#8217;d like to discuss this further, you can reach me at &#8230;&#8221; And such. That&#8217;s just crap, Meranda. Keep us Meranda Writes readers up to date with what happens, if anything. Good luck!
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		<title>by: Cory Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13243</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I suspect your newspaper has a policy about this kind of thing--I don't know of any that don't.  Put it in their hands. Tell your editor and let the powers that be handle this. I remember when I was a young reporter just out of the box and it's tough to play whistleblower. 

But, if there is a written policy at your paper--follow it. That's why it's there. That's how I'd tell my students to handle it.

I love Mindy's tenacity, as plagiarism is a problem, but it's not your *personal* problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect your newspaper has a policy about this kind of thing&#8211;I don&#8217;t know of any that don&#8217;t.  Put it in their hands. Tell your editor and let the powers that be handle this. I remember when I was a young reporter just out of the box and it&#8217;s tough to play whistleblower. </p>
<p>But, if there is a written policy at your paper&#8211;follow it. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s there. That&#8217;s how I&#8217;d tell my students to handle it.</p>
<p>I love Mindy&#8217;s tenacity, as plagiarism is a problem, but it&#8217;s not your *personal* problem.
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		<title>by: matt king</title>
		<link>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13240</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>His name is &lt;s&gt;(deleted)&lt;/s&gt; it's there on the screen capture.

And Mindy, I agree he looks guilty, but aren't we supposed to be in the practice of not assuming thing?


&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt;READER NOTE:&lt;/b&gt; I deleted the name from the text of this reply. It is indeed in the screen grab, if you're curious, but Google won't index the name off a screen grab. That was the distinction I was trying to make. I'm not protecting his identity, but I'm not trying to ruin his future professional life with my blog entry either. — Meranda&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His name is <s>(deleted)</s> it&#8217;s there on the screen capture.</p>
<p>And Mindy, I agree he looks guilty, but aren&#8217;t we supposed to be in the practice of not assuming thing?</p>
<p><em><b>READER NOTE:</b> I deleted the name from the text of this reply. It is indeed in the screen grab, if you&#8217;re curious, but Google won&#8217;t index the name off a screen grab. That was the distinction I was trying to make. I&#8217;m not protecting his identity, but I&#8217;m not trying to ruin his future professional life with my blog entry either. — Meranda</em>
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		<title>by: Mindy McAdams</title>
		<link>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13234</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>P.S. I would also (if I were the editor) phone the journalism department chair at this reporter's j-school and ream the chair out. That way maybe the j-school would do a better job of teaching their students the difference between right and wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I would also (if I were the editor) phone the journalism department chair at this reporter&#8217;s j-school and ream the chair out. That way maybe the j-school would do a better job of teaching their students the difference between right and wrong.
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		<title>by: Mindy McAdams</title>
		<link>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13233</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It looks like a case of pure and simple plagiarism to me. If a student did this in my class, I would fail the student -- for the whole course. If I were a newspaper editor and this were my reporter, I would fire him. And I would make a big public case out of it so everyone in the newsroom understood what had happened and why I have zero tolerance for plagiarism.

If you can't do your own damn reporting and write your own text, then you do not deserve a job in journalism. There are plenty of people looking for work who know how to do the right thing. Give one of them this guy's job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like a case of pure and simple plagiarism to me. If a student did this in my class, I would fail the student &#8212; for the whole course. If I were a newspaper editor and this were my reporter, I would fire him. And I would make a big public case out of it so everyone in the newsroom understood what had happened and why I have zero tolerance for plagiarism.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t do your own damn reporting and write your own text, then you do not deserve a job in journalism. There are plenty of people looking for work who know how to do the right thing. Give one of them this guy&#8217;s job.
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		<title>by: Meranda</title>
		<link>http://merandawrites.com/2008/01/17/what-do-you-say-about-suspected-plagiarism/#comment-13231</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey Matt — I wasn't trying to "run the reporter up the flag pole," I'm just trying to figure out what to do. I made a conscious decision not to write his name or the city here so it wouldn't say pop up in any searches for him down the line. But it is on the screen grab so you can see the similarity and that it's obviously under someone else's byline.

I'll talk to my editor again today and see what he says. Part of me thinks, let it go. But that's how things like this perpetuate. Plus, then the guy will never realize his error if he is "green." But even if he is, I'm inclined to think he should know better. I first learned about plagiarism writing reports in like 4th grade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt — I wasn&#8217;t trying to &#8220;run the reporter up the flag pole,&#8221; I&#8217;m just trying to figure out what to do. I made a conscious decision not to write his name or the city here so it wouldn&#8217;t say pop up in any searches for him down the line. But it is on the screen grab so you can see the similarity and that it&#8217;s obviously under someone else&#8217;s byline.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll talk to my editor again today and see what he says. Part of me thinks, let it go. But that&#8217;s how things like this perpetuate. Plus, then the guy will never realize his error if he is &#8220;green.&#8221; But even if he is, I&#8217;m inclined to think he should know better. I first learned about plagiarism writing reports in like 4th grade.
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